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Ed Cryer
2021-01-07 21:05:34 UTC
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I’d been wondering for some time about Plato’s and Aristotle’s criticism of
democracy; that it degenerates into chaos, anarchy and tyranny. I’d come to
assume that the’d based their view on the actual decay of Athens’
democracy. And had falsely drawn a general conclusion of democracy per se.

Little did I know! I’ve just been given a living example of the theory. The
world’s greatest democracy reduced and put in the hands of low-life
anarchists. And it’s not as if they had a future in view, not some
replacement constitution such as France in 1789 or Russia in 1917. No!.
They were simply using intimidation to foist their own voice onto the
corridors of power.

Mobocracy! Demagogic tyranny!

Ed
Ed Cryer
2021-01-21 13:11:19 UTC
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Post by Ed Cryer
I’d been wondering for some time about Plato’s and Aristotle’s criticism of
democracy; that it degenerates into chaos, anarchy and tyranny. I’d come to
assume that the’d based their view on the actual decay of Athens’
democracy. And had falsely drawn a general conclusion of democracy per se.
Little did I know! I’ve just been given a living example of the theory. The
world’s greatest democracy reduced and put in the hands of low-life
anarchists. And it’s not as if they had a future in view, not some
replacement constitution such as France in 1789 or Russia in 1917. No!.
They were simply using intimidation to foist their own voice onto the
corridors of power.
Mobocracy! Demagogic tyranny!
Ed
Oh, for an army!

I wonder if Trump knows about 49 BC Roman history. That was when J
Caesar marched on Rome.
Caesar said he hesitated for months in Gaul, but his position was
getting worse and worse in Rome. His tribunes' veto had been quashed,
he'd been ordered to disband his legions, Pompey still had his; and if
he returned to Rome he'd be finished - no "imperium", at the mercy of
the state and his debts.
So (military genius already well proven, and with vast numbers of the
plebs loving him (as well as a very loyal army of veterans at his
heels)) he crossed the Rubicon.

Ed
Rich Alderson
2021-01-21 20:33:42 UTC
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Post by Ed Cryer
I wonder if
[the disgraced former president]
Post by Ed Cryer
knows about 49 BC Roman history.
That would require reading, which reportedly is not his strong suit.

We're getting better minute by minute. Let's leave him to history.
--
Rich Alderson ***@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
John W Kennedy
2021-01-21 23:23:43 UTC
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Post by Rich Alderson
Post by Ed Cryer
I wonder if
[the disgraced former president]
Post by Ed Cryer
knows about 49 BC Roman history.
That would require reading, which reportedly is not his strong suit.
We're getting better minute by minute. Let's leave him to history.
I’ve been pointing out to various well-meaning people the failed case of
Herostratus.
--
John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
-- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"
Ed Cryer
2021-01-22 10:40:00 UTC
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Post by John W Kennedy
Post by Ed Cryer
I wonder if
   [the disgraced former president]
Post by Ed Cryer
knows about 49 BC Roman history.
That would require reading, which reportedly is not his strong suit.
We're getting better minute by minute.  Let's leave him to history.
I’ve been pointing out to various well-meaning people the failed case of
Herostratus.
He seems more akin to James Earl Ray, the man who shot Martin Luther King.

Ed
Ed Cryer
2021-01-22 18:48:16 UTC
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Post by Ed Cryer
Post by John W Kennedy
Post by Ed Cryer
I wonder if
   [the disgraced former president]
Post by Ed Cryer
knows about 49 BC Roman history.
That would require reading, which reportedly is not his strong suit.
We're getting better minute by minute.  Let's leave him to history.
I’ve been pointing out to various well-meaning people the failed case
of Herostratus.
He seems more akin to James Earl Ray, the man who shot Martin Luther King.
Ed
I feel ancient after looking here;
https://amzn.to/3sPMTUz

I remember reading a hardback of this book, and being very moved by the
utter senselessness of it all (later surpassed by the death of John
Lennon!).
Now it's a vintage heirloom for collectors.

Ed

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